You stay classy, Lake Travis
November 27, 2010
One line of the box score will stand out for long time to East fans:
0:25, 4th Q - Stephen Pyle 33 yard field goal.
Lake Travis on fourth down inside East's zone late in the game chose to kick a field goal rather than kill the clock.
From what I've seen in my first full year of covering high school sports in Texas is that sportsmanship still carries a lot of weight. This has become a game where it's easy to run the score up on some teams, and kids are inundated when watching college football that So-and-So has to beat Such-and-Such by a bazillion points to impress the rankmen and move into a better bowl game.
I don't know the motives of the Cavaliers coach, Hank Carter, nor do I care. The game was over and in all honesty had been for a good long while. There was no need to rub it in.
-- John Hornberg

Comments
jwharrison says...
It's called what goes around comes around. Every team that spends it's year running up the score on less gifted teams eventually has it done to them. Maybe say something about the fact that at the beginning of the 4th Qtr. against West, being up 27 points, throwing a 60 yard touchdown pass. Or playing your starting skill players BOTH WAYS the entire game, while being up 34 points. Don't believe me, I have the photo of backup West receiver Eli Banda's touchdown on the final play of the game being covered by East starting receiver Josh McClure. Lake Travis pulled their starters out of the game early in the 3rd quarter. Even when giving up a few scores, their starters stayed out of the game. The kids in the game deserved to be rewarded for their playing. If that means letting them score on a field goal, so be it.
November 29, 2010 at 9:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jwharrison says...
It's called what goes around comes around. Every team that spends its year running up the score on less gifted teams eventually has it done to them. Maybe we should discuss the fact that at the beginning of the 4th Qtr. against West and being up 27 points, East threw a 60 yard touchdown pass. Or how about playing your starting skill players BOTH WAYS the entire game, while being up 34 points. Don't believe me, I have the photo of backup West receiver Eli Banda's touchdown on the final play of the game being covered by East starting receiver Josh McClure. Lake Travis pulled their starters out of the game early in the 3rd quarter. Even when giving up a few scores, their starters stayed out of the game. The kids in the game deserved to be rewarded for their playing. If that means letting them score on a field goal, so be it.
November 29, 2010 at 9:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
birdfan says...
victoria east 76, harlingen south 35...
I believe east scored twice in the 4th quarter with the last score coming around the 2 minute mark.
Like Harrison said, what goes around, comes around. Started the season on one end of a blowout, ended on the other.
November 29, 2010 at 11:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
brainbent says...
That kid may have to kick a field goal that matters this week. They will need a good snap and a good hold. Have zero problem with it. If you cant stop the third string from getting into field goal position then you can't complain about the field goal.
November 29, 2010 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
Third string? last I checked #3 scored that last touchdown in the 4th and he started the game. yall make it sound like there was a totally different team out there when in actuality the only subs were the QB and some Receivers. and some D backs
November 29, 2010 at 2:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
Once again the West parents... getting all bent out of shape on an East blog. Bird Fan Who are yall playing this week? Honestly there were so many other things going on on the field LT kicking a field goal was just added to the pile of Bull in that game... And I've Got Pics of those too!! I dont care who you are but if your a D-lineman and your getting striped shirtless or rear naked choked all night and the refs are allowing it to happen its going to take its toll on you. Ill bet the Titans didn't even realize the FG even happened by that time.
November 29, 2010 at 2:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
At Least you said it JHornberg... nobady else will... well except for me HAHAHA!
November 29, 2010 at 2:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RedRage00 says...
I didn't think anything was wrong with the FG. IMO, they could have scored a TD in that final drive, but it looked like they were trying not to. And when they kicked the FG, I figured it was just practice for their FG kicker...he might need it against Cedar Park next week LOL
November 29, 2010 at 5:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Hornberg.... That was about the dumbest thing I have heard you say all year..... Look what east did to their pre district "competition". Did you complain then. No problem with lt coach giving his kid real game experience. Complain about something that matters. Like the east coaching iq.
November 29, 2010 at 5:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Hornberg..............
I must say that i myself didnt see anything wrong with the field goal. You have to play until the end and thats what they did. You who said what goes around comes around you have a point and its fine. You have to learn you dont want someone running up the score than stop them.............I dont feel sorry for running up the score on anybody we played thats the way it is...............
November 29, 2010 at 7:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Cardfanatic says...
We have run up the score alot this season, but 2nd and 3rd stringers played most of the second half of those games. At any point in the season a starter can go down with an injury and its good that those 2nd and 3rd string guys have had a chance to play and score some points to build confidence. PS when is the advocate going to update stats and when are they going to give St. Paul some props. St. Paul 13 and 0 will play saturday in Killeen against Colleyville covenant for state championship. Other than a box score and small write-up here and there we have been evidently flying under the radar this season. Oh well maybe thats a good thing. To all you East/West fans great year and good luck in the future........Thats all my time.....see ya in Killeen sat.
November 29, 2010 at 9:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Jojo, I think we just agreed on one thing. Baby steps!!!
November 29, 2010 at 11:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
slapstick...................
Yea I think we can agree alot more when we both are not trying to be neg.
November 30, 2010 at 9:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
armchairquarterback says...
A football game constitutes four full quarters. If you don't play four quarters in a close game, you get beat. Every scenario must be played out, especially in the playoffs. Although I do have a problem with it, I do not blame them for going for the field goal. I am a Titan fan and have been a Victoria football fan for decades. The Stings used to smash teams into submission but never went much into the 50's or 60's on therm even given the opportunity they would kneel down. Yes, it is classy in most respects. You just have to wonder if that does not take away from a killer instinct that is much needed when the opposition gets tougher and execution is a must.
December 1, 2010 at 10:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z2...
Heres the rear naked choke on Tegler that resulted in a TD by brewer up the middle.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z2...
Ponten and Vega getting stripped thi was a long gain.
yea I know we lost Tstorm and yea I know you were in the stands WATCHING... hahaha!
December 4, 2010 at 11:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ddherring says...
That's some good pictures! Did someone have a camera on the field or what? First picture is a definate hold, second one appears to be a hold you can see the defenders head looking toward the ball carrier but his shoulders are locked in the grasp of the o-lineman. I won't complain after watching the Corpus Christi refs routinely litter the field all game long. I was wondering if anyone noticed that during district that East probably was averaging 100yds a game in penalties, and then we play West and hardly a flag was thrown.
December 4, 2010 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
oh those arent the only ones!! And these Pics arent showing the three or four block in the backs that happened on their kick returns I was just putting up the ones I was talking about to TStorm. Like I said I got these from flicker. Not even my pics.
December 4, 2010 at 3:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Aztlan or whatever it is??? This proves nothing. You will find this stuff on just about every play in football. Some called some not called. Time MOVE ON and think about next year!! COME ON MAN!!!!
December 4, 2010 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
I am... Just responding to a question jock stick! HAHAHA and If you see this on every play you must have been watching this game HAHA!
December 4, 2010 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
legion357 says...
Anyway.... Lake Travis 21/ Cedar Park 20
December 4, 2010 at 5:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Aztlan, all you have proven is that you are such a homer you don't see thing you don't want to.'you quite obviously don't know or understand the game of football and any claim that you do will only prove me right. I'm glad you are a fan but be an objective fan and don't make more of a fool out of yourself than you already have. Your viewpoints and opinions are completely subjective, biased and unassuming that what you say goes thru one ear and out the other. Be a fan, but give up the poor me syndrome that you have brewing over there. Again, be objective and not subjective, and people might listen to what you have to say, until then...... For the sake of fellow readers, give up the ignorant name calling, put down the beer and doughnuts, and go to bed. See ya!!!!! Hopefully not!!!
What awhiner!!!
December 5, 2010 at 3:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
Blah Blah Blah still crying cause I'm right... Whats lower? Proving a point? Or beating a dead horse thats not even yours to beat? anyways we had fun playing after thanksgiving... thanks for caring TStorm-Slapstick....hahahaha!
December 5, 2010 at 9:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Your an absolute joke, FYI, my team is still playing. I hope you don't represent the majority of east fans. Your behavior is shameful. If your an east fan you should be disowned by the good people that cheer for that team. Get a life and grow up!
December 5, 2010 at 9:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Just got back from Austin and man those who didnt get a chance to see LT and cedar park you miss a game. Have to tip my hat to LT they where beat at every phase of the game but speical teams. Feel really bad for CP and there qb who didnt play. Not making excuse. But if he plays the end was looking LT in the face. I know alot of CP fans are still upset about the block n the back that wasnt call but like i always say the refs are human they want see everything. I will say this if LT plays like this next week it will be basketball season before you know it.....................................................
December 5, 2010 at 11:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Jojo I heard that was a hell of a game, do you think that was the championship game? What was the attendance like? Did the refs let them play?
December 6, 2010 at 11:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
That was maybe the best High School game ive seen. The O line for CP totally control the game from start to finish. I will say this you have to have a great coaching staff to win games like this. When LT need a stop they knew what to do. The CP QB,s where just to young for this type of game. Yes the starting QB has been out since like the 2nd round the refs I will say let them play for the most part but you hate to see a game end like this one i not even from CP and it hurt me to see those kids lose that game. Was this the state championship game i just dont think that LT will walk the rest of the way but you have to have the right people in the right skill postion to beat them and then you have to come ready to play and not be affected by what they have done in the past. Not an easy thing to do. Man the crowd was like a UT game. I will say this the qb from LT has to play better or it will be over. He to me is not the Qb for Tech but i have to remember that Tech has new coaches so he may fit in.
December 6, 2010 at 4:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Waddie666 says...
ow all this hubbub about a fieldgoal..what about all the other TD's? be proud east and aest fans you guys played a top notch team and did pretty well,you guys should be proud of your accomplishments this year. no FG at the end of your season can take that away. keep rolling east
December 6, 2010 at 6:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Slapstick
I went to the maxprep site to take a look at the rest and i can see this next game been another good one. I just think that LT can win number 4 but they will have to play.
Tstorm5 take a look at maxprep. com and they have a few pic of them young hogs up front for CP
December 6, 2010 at 8:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
I know nothing about friendswood, I know they have beaten, mongomery, humble, and Wheatley. I don't know much about those teams either. I hope friendswood is not overwhelmed by the moment and gives them a good game. I hate seeing teams like lake Travis vs. Kerville and lake Travis vs. Cedar park play this early in the playoffs. What do you know about friendswood ?
December 7, 2010 at 12:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
I know they have a young man name manning i beleive. #66 on the d line that will give the big boy from LT #77 all he wants. They have the size to play with them but its like you said hope they dont get caught up in the name of the team they are playing. I hate that its in college Station I would like to see that game. Looks like i may be headed to the Alomodome eveything else is to far and the games may be blow outs.
December 7, 2010 at 1:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
It's getting tough, wait till all the games are in Dallas. That's even worse!! I'm not a college station fan by any stretch of the imagination!!! Personally I think they should divide these state titles up by region. Like the valley region, gulf coast, east Texas, west Texas, north and central Texas. Then the winners advance from there. It would make it easier for people to see there teams play. Just an opinion with all sorts of flaws. To me it sounds good.
December 7, 2010 at 1:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Yeah it sounds good and this would also get alot of more kids to the playoffs. You know I was looking at LT and in a way i think they should be 5a. They remind me alot of South Lake Carrol. But thats life. Do you remember at the start of the year SLC qb was rule he couldnt play cause he move from OLK. He has already sign with a D1 school. I ask why trasfer? You know i been following this Cam Netwon story and some parents will do anything to get there kids to the next level. I will push my son to be the best but I will let him enjoy the game. How many kids do you think here in the state has moved so they could play for a better team? I played this game and i love it but i will not do things that could hurt my son plus other kids who work so hard to get the things the have. I know I rambling but o well.
December 7, 2010 at 9:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
slapstick says...
Yep...... It's amazing to me, when I said good genes a while back, I was referring to lake Travis. They have and had many players of former NFL and college players. I cant list them but I know they have. Now if a parent can afford to move to Katy, lake Travis, southlake, etc, when they are in junior high and enters the highs bool a's a freshman, it's hard to argue with that. There are always circumstances where someone will move while in highschool, and that should not be argued either. But there have been many circumstances where a kid has suspiciously moved to a particular district
I am lost for words on cam newton. Can't say anything that will make anyone understand that.
Bottom line is this, we a's parents show our kids bow we want them to act, we can't tell them, we have show them. If we drink, smoke and beat are wives, what's the kids going to do. I was in law enforcement for 15 years. I took many calls to the local little league, football fields etc, all because parent were so high strung and were near blows with refs, parents etc. It's brutal.
December 8, 2010 at 1:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Aztlan101 says...
TStorm I can see by your descriptions of the pics You don't know what your talking about
The picture of Kalinoski on the ground you can tell that hes no where near gilbert Gilberts big but he aint that big. He (#12) was cracked pretty good on that play.
second one is an illegal cut block outside the tackles that didn't get called thanks for that one
third was caught just as the defender was turning to try and catch garner who cut back to the defenders left, which was a nice move on the defenders part i was right on top of that but he wasn't fast enough to catch him.
Thanks for sharing those though!!
December 8, 2010 at 9:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
You know its funny cause i look at SLC and to me this besides Katy is thee best high school programs in texas. For SLC to go from 3a to 5a and still win rings thats something speical. Katy they just keep winning. I do know to get to that level we here in Victoria have alot of work to do. You know I dont get into all that East and West iI just look to the Jr high and thats why I say East will be in good shape for years to come but now its up to the coaches to get in there and make this a family thing . Make them kids want to play for East. Make them when they take the field that dont want to be the ones who lose.
Say Im going out on the limb and say the Bobcats get beat this week?
December 8, 2010 at 9:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ricky64 says...
sorry Lake travis this time it's the Calallen wildcats going to state cause you cannot stop the run attack so good luck lake travis fro a sandcrab fan we r backing up our coastal team go wildcats win state
December 9, 2010 at 9:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ddherring says...
Ricky64? Lake Travis is playing a passing team! Friendswood, and I doubt seriously Calallen beats La Marque and if they happen to beat La Marque Aledo will run roughshod over them.
December 9, 2010 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RedRage00 says...
Calallen is not that great...the only reason they are in the semi finals is because all the Top Region 4 teams were in Division 1. Lake Travis would have done the same thing to Calallen that they did to the Titans.
December 9, 2010 at 4:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Calallen will be second best just like every year. They will not win it all>
December 9, 2010 at 9:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
A2847LRT says...
Jojomarissa:
Why is it so hard to give credit where credit is due? Calallen is a proven program with a rich history, and will likely continue to on in the same direction. Their success is evident beyond the gridiron as is evidenced by their success in other sports, in particular baseball. To throw a team under the bus b/c they haven't won a state championship is naive. There are a lot of storied programs who've yet to win the big one. It's also rediculous to continually put them down when Victoria hasn't achieved anywhere near as much as Calallen. There has only been one Victoria team that made it as far as the semi-finals, and that was in 1993. This will be Calallen's 9th or 10th trip to the state semi-finals. Throw in their 2005 State Finalist team and it's a very fine program. Since East's loss to Lake Travis a lot of fans have been asking, "What is it we need to do to get to that next level?". Well, I can give some good first-step advice. Instead of criticizing teams who have had far more success than yours, and putting them down, and complaining about this/that, start looking at what they do and how they do it, b/c they're obviously doing something right. You can criticize Calallen all you want, but there's not a red-blooded boy in Victoria who wore a uniform that wouldn't give their left arm to be in that Alamodome tonight, win or lose.
And for everyone saying Calallen only made it to the semi-finals b/c they're DII, bologna. When the final AP Poll came out after week 10, four of the Top 10 teams were in Division II, including the #1 Aledo, #3, #5, and #9 ranked teams. And as most know Aledo beat LT in the reg season (yes I know LT had an injured QB). And finally, if you want to play the "DI is better than DII" game, w/their enrollment(s), East and West would've both been in 5A just a couple of years back, and the playoffs would've been a whole new can of worms. Calallen barely has 1,100 kids.
December 10, 2010 at 10:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RedRage00 says...
Were the #1, #3, #5, and #9 ranked teams in Region 4? No disrespect towards Calallen but to think they'd be in the semifinals had they been in Division 1 with Lake Travis, Cedar Park, Kerrville Tivy, and Smithson Valley is just crazy. Even their own fans that I've talked to were glad with the luck of the draw they got! LaMarque, who finished 4th in their district, just flew passed them.
December 11, 2010 at 12:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Wait ,wait, I will give Calallen there due they have great history. They go deep every year and they play hard and they are well coach. Now me saying they want win it all is just me giving you what i think. I do know this and i wonder if you will agree the goal each year is to win it all and you guys just like alot of other teams get so close to have that door slam in your face and i will say yes i would love for my team to go deep in the playoffs every year and come up short then not go at all. Do you think You would be still playing if you was in D1?
December 11, 2010 at 10:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
Man maybe I should have look at the web site with all the scores before i answer the quote. But as you can tell I like others was right Calallen lost again great season nothing to hold your heads down about you did your best. Some times its not always about been the better program sometimes its about can you win the big game. I also wonder why this was the first time you guys played teams like Victoria why come we dont see you guys playing like El Campo Bay City. But again I just want to say good season. Yes you beat my team in the reg season, yes you went farther, but one thing is the same we both didnt win that ring.
December 11, 2010 at 10:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
A2847LRT says...
Jojo:
I'm not from Calallen. I played for Victoria High. As far as Calallen not playing El Campo or Bay City, how do you, me, or how does anyone know that it's Calallen's call on that? You just assume that they don't play them b/c they don't want to. It takes two to tango. But if I had to guess I'd say proximity plays a role in it for both sides. Either way you're looking at a 150-160 mile trip one-way, as opposed to 60-70 miles one-way for us in Victoria. I could say, "Why don't we (Victoria) ever play Brenham or Galveston Ball?". Most likely proximity. They're both about 150 miles away. I can tell you this. In the 90's Calallen offered for several years to play VHS, and Reeve didn't want to start a series. Why? I don't know. As far as D1/D2, does it really matter? It is what it is. Do I think Calallen would beat Lake Travis? No, I don't. But just b/c they didn't have to play Lake Travis, it does not and should not diminish their accomplishments. To keep playing the "What if Calallen had been DI" game is pointless. They're not DI. Calallen barely has 1100 kids. East and West are on the high-side of double their enrollment. Cuero probably wouldn't do as well in 4A as they do in 3A, but I don't throw that in as a tag line when they do well, and say, "Y'all wouldn't have done that well in 4A". It's pointless. No one team writes the rules, but they all play by the same ones.
December 11, 2010 at 4:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
A2847LRT says...
RedRage00
Again, so what? Calallen is in D2 b/c of their enrollment. They probably wouldn't have gotten as far, but should that diminish what they've accomplished? Let's reverse the question. If East had been in D2, do you think they would've beat La Marque? I sure don't. It seems like you're spinning it as if Calallen had a cakewalk, and if East had been in D2 they'd win state. I don't think East would've come close to beating La Marque. IMO that alone shoots a big hole into your theory about DI being so much better. I could also sit here and say, "If East had played El Campo and Angleton instead of Harl. South and Kingsville they never would've been 9-1", but it's speculation at best. You're almost villifying Calallen as if they've done something wrong. You say they got the luck of the draw. No they didn't. They ended up in D2 b/c they only have 1100 kids. I honestly try not to get caught up in the DI vs D2 thing b/c it's hardly concrete. But for the sake of the topic, I'll say this. The closest thing to a barometer for the debate is the Aledo vs Lake Travis game earlier this year, which Aledo won. Aledo was ranked #1, and the returning D2 Champion, and Lake Travis the 3-time defending DI Champion. I've heard about LT's QB being hurt and what not, but all teams have injuries, etc. It's part of the game. But that's as close as we'll get to knowthing this year, and the edge went to Aledo/D2. It is what it is.
As far as the #1, #4, #5, and #9 teams not being in Region 4, again, so what? Calallen wasn't ranked all year long and made it to the semi-finals. That makes it an even better accomplishment. And La Marque finished 4th in a district comprised of Galveston Ball, Texas City, Pearland, Friendswood, and Manvel to name a few. Those are all well-known, and several very storied programs. When La Marque faces Aledo it will be their 8th State Championship game in 17 years, and they're 4-3 all time in the state title game. So 4th place in district or not, they're a very good team. For whatever reason, some teams know how to turn it on for the playoffs. Lake Travis is an example this year too.
December 11, 2010 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jojomarissa says...
man look all I'm saying is since you played at VHS everbodies goal is to win it all. You keep going deep but you never win anything. Just like the Bills of the NFL. I guess we should look to them on how to build a program that goes deep but dont finish. Thats my whole point I dont care if they went D1 or D2 the outcome would have been the same. Yes I tip my hat to them and say good season but if I'm a coach or player on that team I'm tried of just a good season. Last when Reeves was here VHS was a good program and its hard to beleive that he said no to them with VHS been a nice 5A school with lots of talent. But just read todays sports the Bobcats coach said it himself he is just glad to be playing teams with the same number he has so D1,D2 does mean something to some.
December 11, 2010 at 5:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
armchairquarterback says...
No doubt, Victoria would have won some of those games versus the cats but not all of them. I never thought Cal was that good until I watched them play in the state semi final against La Marque some years back. I had seen them play Carroll and they did not impress me. They were a differnt team in the playoffs. They earned my respect that day in Houston. Cal is good because Danaher knows what it takes to get to the next level. He has done a wonderful job for the cats. No they may never win a championship but who knows. If they get the right guy under center, that may be all they need to win one or two.
December 11, 2010 at 10:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
A2847LRT says...
Just b/c Calallen hasn't won state doesn't mean lessons can't be drawn from their program. For one they've at least made it to a state championship game in the past 5 years. Victoria never has. When I say that East should look to them as an example I'm referring to Calallen's ability to win dsitrict pretty much every year. Their ability to go 3, 4, 5 rounds deep every year. Their ability to avg 11, 12, 13 wins every year. No, they haven't won state. But in order to win state you must first win all your other games, and they know how to win consistently. If you look back 25 or so years, you're not going to see 13-1, 8-3, 3-7, 5-6, 10-2, 2-8, 14-1, 4-7, etc. You're going to see 13-1, 11-1, 13-1, 12-1, 14-2, 11-2, 10-1, etc. About the worst you're going to see is a couple of 8-4 seasons. And that's what East can take from them. I'm not saying Calallen's the best team to ever strap on a helmet. I'm just saying East would do better to learn from them than criticize them. Take what good you can and build on it. What's the down side?
As far as the D1/D2 debate, I still don't get what it is your getting at. Do you want Calallen to make a public statement and thank the D1 teams for allowing them to have an "easy road" to the semi-finals? Again, it's relevant to size. Refugio is D2 b/c of they're enrollment, not luck. Calallen is D2 b/c of their enrollment, not luck. East is D1 b/c of their enrollment, not bad luck. I understand you think DI is better than D2 across the board. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But criticizing the D2 schools won't help East in the slightest. They're going to be D1 until they become 5A some day.
December 12, 2010 at 4:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
A2847LRT says...
Armchair, I agree with you. I think VHS would've definitely won some games vs Calallen but now we'll never know. Coach Reeve really didn't put much into scheduling non-district games. Some of the teams VHS played in the 90's such as Round Rock, Round Rock Westwood, Pflugerville, Austin Anderson are good programs now, but at the time were pretty bad.
As for Calallen/playoffs/state titles, etc.I think a lot of people sell-short the difficulty of getting past the 3rd round. The 3rd round is literally the "hump", as their are 6 playoff games. And generally speaking the 3rd round is where you meet your first truly competitive team. And it usually gets harder and harder with each additional round.
I think UIL should consider revising the playoffs. Four teams per-district is rediculous. If UIL is dead-set on 4 teams for monetary reasons, do it like 1A and 2A are now doing it. Separate DI and D2 from Zero Week and send only the dist. champ and runner up to the playoffs. That way you still earn the money 4 teams bring, but you do away w/rediculous matchups betwen a 3-7 vs a 10-0 team in the early rounds. There is a huge flaw in the entire "Division" scheme. There is a minimum and maximum at every level, except 5A D1. A 5A D2 team can't play a 5A D1 team b/c they're too small. But a 5A D1 school with 2,200 kids can play a 5A D1 school with 4,000 kids. Am I the only one who thinks that negates the purpose entirely?
December 12, 2010 at 4:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Radio says...
Hey Im all for running up the score on a out of control games GEEEZ havent you people heard of getting your field goal kicker prepared for the playoffs down the road to state and you have to strike fear into the next team down the road so UH UH as far as lake travis not being classey because they kicked a field goal in the 4th Q when the game was nearly over you go boy get that field goal kicker some practice in case it comes dowm to a field goal down the line Lake Travis is every bit classey its the Titans fans not the players but the fans who arent being classey they just cant realize that lake travis is just a way better team than Victoria and they proved it 4 time state champions and by the way Titans fans excuses never I mean NEVER win state titles ok so until Victoria learns this they will never I mean NEVER win a State title bottom line TATA 2010 4A Division 2 State Champions Lake Travis Cavaliers dont Victoria wish they could have that title maybe someday but they have a lot to learn from the coaches to staff to players to fans Later Gators.
December 24, 2010 at 2:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jasonbourne says...
Found this blog from last year and read a few of the posts... Funny stuff here... I guess this Hornburg fella (and some of the posters here) didn't know too much about football
I refer to Lake Travis when I see someone toughting an ok team. Has anyone ever looked at LT's history. Yes they are a dominant team for the last 5 years but what about before that. I wouldn't even consider them average. In 2002 they didn't even win a game and now they are at the pinnacle of High School Football. Pretty impressive stuff, what they have done in the last 5 years. For anyone that really enjoys HS Football and wanting to see what the best has to offer I suggest you find a way to go watch these guys play. You should quickly recognize the difference between them and all the rest.
2010 14 2 0
2009 16 0 0
2008 16 0 0
2007 15 1 0
2006 8 3 0
2005 11 1 0
2004 8 3 0
2003 3 7 0
2002 0 10 0
2001 1 9 0
2000 7 5 0
1999 7 3 0
1998 2 8 0
1997 1 9 0
1996 3 6 1
1995 7 3 0
1994 3 7 0
1993 2 8 0
1992 2 8 0
1991 2 8 0
1990 3 7 0
1989 3 7 0
1988 3 7 0
1987 2 8 0
1986 3 7 0
1985 7 3 0
1984 5 5 0
1983 7 3 0
1982 9 1 0
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